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[00:00:00] The Y curve with Phil Dobby and Roger hearing.
[00:00:04] The Climate Conference COP28 promises of change, promises of money to save the planet.
[00:00:10] Will is it really all just blah blah, as Greta Thunberg says.
[00:00:14] All environmental virtue signaling is the only way to make this stuff actually happen.
[00:00:19] To make the economics work. Can we use the tools of capitalism to push everyone from
[00:00:23] petro-states to Western? How do we handle that? How do we stop investment in areas which could
[00:01:42] be bad for us, for example?
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